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		<title>By: Phil Edmonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Edmonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s great to read all the comments about various movements. As a bloke who has owned dozens of watches over 45 years I&#039;m hoping you won&#039;t mind me making a few comments. ETA v Sellita? From what I can gather it doesn&#039;t really make any difference. A rock solid fact is that every Seiko with the 7S32 movement in has kept better time that anything else! The reality is that from what I can see is that some avid ETA fans will wear almost any style as long as they know an ETA is ticking on their wrist, and that&#039;s fine. Personally, I insist that a watch is accurate, and importantly, that I love the design! I have recently bought 2 C11 watches from Christopher Ward (Christopher ward.co.uk)and they are consummate in design, and finish, however, I do not expect pin-point accuracy from the Sellita movements...they&#039;re mechanical. If I want deadly accuracy one day, I will wear a Citizen Eco Drive.
It&#039;s simply personal choice. Most watch geeks would not wear a quartz watch, but they&#039;re guaranteed to be fairly accurate. As I said, my opinion is that the Japanese Seiko movements are rugged, reliable , and accurate, but to some, this is not good enough
as it does not say &quot;Swiss&quot;. I do not wish to sound like a salesman, but the best Swiss made watch for solid value for money is now sold by Christopher Ward (of London)No shops, or salesmen to pay, only sourced from his site. Check it out.
Thanks for all the interesting comments.
Regards from UK.
phil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great to read all the comments about various movements. As a bloke who has owned dozens of watches over 45 years I&#8217;m hoping you won&#8217;t mind me making a few comments. ETA v Sellita? From what I can gather it doesn&#8217;t really make any difference. A rock solid fact is that every Seiko with the 7S32 movement in has kept better time that anything else! The reality is that from what I can see is that some avid ETA fans will wear almost any style as long as they know an ETA is ticking on their wrist, and that&#8217;s fine. Personally, I insist that a watch is accurate, and importantly, that I love the design! I have recently bought 2 C11 watches from Christopher Ward (Christopher ward.co.uk)and they are consummate in design, and finish, however, I do not expect pin-point accuracy from the Sellita movements&#8230;they&#8217;re mechanical. If I want deadly accuracy one day, I will wear a Citizen Eco Drive.<br />
It&#8217;s simply personal choice. Most watch geeks would not wear a quartz watch, but they&#8217;re guaranteed to be fairly accurate. As I said, my opinion is that the Japanese Seiko movements are rugged, reliable , and accurate, but to some, this is not good enough<br />
as it does not say &#8220;Swiss&#8221;. I do not wish to sound like a salesman, but the best Swiss made watch for solid value for money is now sold by Christopher Ward (of London)No shops, or salesmen to pay, only sourced from his site. Check it out.<br />
Thanks for all the interesting comments.<br />
Regards from UK.<br />
phil</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://thewatchlounge.com/does-the-movement-really-matter-the-end-of-the-eta-era/#comment-8664</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think most will care if ETA is out of the picture. For myself, I want a swiss made watch and movement. I base my choice on design and secondly, the movement. If fact, I&#039;m getting sick of seeing the bulk of mid range watches using the same ETA movements. Purging out ETA for another is a welcome move and it could be a great marketing tool for the affected watch makers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think most will care if ETA is out of the picture. For myself, I want a swiss made watch and movement. I base my choice on design and secondly, the movement. If fact, I&#8217;m getting sick of seeing the bulk of mid range watches using the same ETA movements. Purging out ETA for another is a welcome move and it could be a great marketing tool for the affected watch makers.</p>
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		<title>By: Olivier Muller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olivier Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve been contacted by MontieK Watches. They use Sea-Gulls too. Does someone ever heard about them ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been contacted by MontieK Watches. They use Sea-Gulls too. Does someone ever heard about them ?</p>
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		<title>By: Col</title>
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		<dc:creator>Col</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Speedmaster Yes, it&#039;s a 6497 clone and is utterly bullet proof,
Sea-Gull make some damn fine MVTs now, including the updated version of the Venus 75. This isn&#039;t a clone, they bought the rights and the tooling back in the late 60s. This MVT, the ST-19 is the equal of any two register chronograph as far as reliability goes and is now out in automatic form as well. Sea-Gull also have a Tourbillon of their own design as well as a clone of most ETA MVTs with the exception of the 7750 (Liaoning and Shanghai Watch both make that one) and all are quite reliable pieces in the higher grades and are sold by 10s of 1000s to makers the world over. China is coming ETA and you had best watch out!

PS: You paid too much for the homage. Next time try Tat at www.getat-watch.com  His straps alone are worth the asking price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Speedmaster Yes, it&#8217;s a 6497 clone and is utterly bullet proof,<br />
Sea-Gull make some damn fine MVTs now, including the updated version of the Venus 75. This isn&#8217;t a clone, they bought the rights and the tooling back in the late 60s. This MVT, the ST-19 is the equal of any two register chronograph as far as reliability goes and is now out in automatic form as well. Sea-Gull also have a Tourbillon of their own design as well as a clone of most ETA MVTs with the exception of the 7750 (Liaoning and Shanghai Watch both make that one) and all are quite reliable pieces in the higher grades and are sold by 10s of 1000s to makers the world over. China is coming ETA and you had best watch out!</p>
<p>PS: You paid too much for the homage. Next time try Tat at <a href="http://www.getat-watch.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.getat-watch.com</a>  His straps alone are worth the asking price.</p>
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		<title>By: Silvia Gertsenchtein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silvia Gertsenchtein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 17:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi:
Dear friends:
I&#039;ve worked in sales of watches for 15 years in Brasil.
In my opinion, and i&#039;m completely openned to be correct, it&#039;s a good thing what happens to ETA in certain aspects.
Tom asked if eveybody cares about movements..
My customers and I care..
All of them asked me if the movemnt is &quot;in house&quot; when they buy a watch.
Since CARTIER, BVLGARI and another jewelery when I had the opotunity to work with 18 brands of watches..
When I went to MONTBLANC, they still have bought LA VILERRET..
And I had dificulties to sell the MONTBLANC watches,
I&#039;ve heard that the great companies are investing in formation of mechanisms designers..
And CARTIER still have one:a woman..
So for me it&#039;s very good if the brands could sign their own moviments really.
Even if at the beggining it&#039;s a litle forced.
The collection C.P.C.P. from CARTIER  still have their movients or calibers.
And till BVLGARI bought DANIEL ROTH and GERAL GENTA, do do their mechanisms..
I hope the designers brands will reach the customers questions..
cause we, or I teached them to desire it.
about the chineses moviments, i&#039;m worried..
Coul be prejudice..
I know people that are negociating with them.
but for me loose the SWISS MADE..
 many centuries conserving presicion, perfection and tradition...
Why loose now??
And thanks Tom, for the article.
I see I should be more informed about moviments more than I thought. and all of you..
That had so much knowledge.
But the tradition was criated, and we ask a value for it..
The haute horlogerie market has it.
How to destroy it now??
Silvia Gertsenchtein
São Paulo
Brasil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi:<br />
Dear friends:<br />
I&#8217;ve worked in sales of watches for 15 years in Brasil.<br />
In my opinion, and i&#8217;m completely openned to be correct, it&#8217;s a good thing what happens to ETA in certain aspects.<br />
Tom asked if eveybody cares about movements..<br />
My customers and I care..<br />
All of them asked me if the movemnt is &#8220;in house&#8221; when they buy a watch.<br />
Since CARTIER, BVLGARI and another jewelery when I had the opotunity to work with 18 brands of watches..<br />
When I went to MONTBLANC, they still have bought LA VILERRET..<br />
And I had dificulties to sell the MONTBLANC watches,<br />
I&#8217;ve heard that the great companies are investing in formation of mechanisms designers..<br />
And CARTIER still have one:a woman..<br />
So for me it&#8217;s very good if the brands could sign their own moviments really.<br />
Even if at the beggining it&#8217;s a litle forced.<br />
The collection C.P.C.P. from CARTIER  still have their movients or calibers.<br />
And till BVLGARI bought DANIEL ROTH and GERAL GENTA, do do their mechanisms..<br />
I hope the designers brands will reach the customers questions..<br />
cause we, or I teached them to desire it.<br />
about the chineses moviments, i&#8217;m worried..<br />
Coul be prejudice..<br />
I know people that are negociating with them.<br />
but for me loose the SWISS MADE..<br />
 many centuries conserving presicion, perfection and tradition&#8230;<br />
Why loose now??<br />
And thanks Tom, for the article.<br />
I see I should be more informed about moviments more than I thought. and all of you..<br />
That had so much knowledge.<br />
But the tradition was criated, and we ask a value for it..<br />
The haute horlogerie market has it.<br />
How to destroy it now??<br />
Silvia Gertsenchtein<br />
São Paulo<br />
Brasil</p>
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